Weapons compared (weapon guide for WR)

Most people think that axes do much more damage then swords or fists, but this isn't the whole truth. I talked to lvl90+ players, that seemed not to be able to do some simple math to calculate an average damage per second. Max. Dmg isn't everything...

Average Damage per Second = (Min Dmg + Max Dmg) / 2 * att frequency

The following table shows you how slightly the differences are and what is really the truth about it, if you do the math:

Weapon Type	HH Lvl	dmg	att. frequency	average dmg / s
Fist	HH60	343-379	1.43	516.23
	HH70	392-433	1.43	589.875
	HH80	451-498	1.43	678.535
	HH90	501-554	1.43	754.325
	HH100	643-710	1.43	967.395
Blade	HH60	339-629	1.11	537.24
	HH70	387-718	1.11	613.275
	HH80	445-827	1.11	705.96
	Dual HH80	674-912	0.91	721.63
	HH90	494-918	1.11	783.66
	Dual HH90	748-1012	0.91	800.8
	HH100	634-1178	1.11	1005.66
Long Blade	HH60	407-679	1.00	543
	HH70	465-775	1.00	620
	HH70	403-837	1.00	620
	HH80	535-892	1.00	713.5
	HH80	464-963	1.00	713.5
	HH90	595-991	1.00	793
	HH100	763-1271	1.00	1017
Axe	HH60	399-930	0.83	551.535
	HH70	456-1062	0.83	629.97
	HH80	524-1223	0.83	725.005
	HH90	582-1358	0.83	805.1
	Mace HH90	616-1144	0.91	800.8
	HH100	565-1694	0.91	1027.845

As you can see in the upper table, the dmg of the weapons is just slightly different and the type doesn't matter anyhow, just the attack speed. The lower the speed, the more average dmg you have. Mace and Dual Swords have the damage as you can see, because their frequency is both 0.91.

Fist HH60 has just 35,305 dmg less then a HH60 axe. But when weapons have damage addons (magic, soulstone, refine) things change rapidly.

Fist HH60 +56dmg +20dmg from Gr 6 SS = 629,2 average dmg
Axe HH60 +56dmg +20dmg from Gr 6 SS = 614,615 average dmg

And with each higher magic effect, higher soulstones and higher refine the fist will become more and more better then the axe.

But ofcourse this isn't the only thing you have to calculate in to know what is the difference. Someone using an axe will have higher strength, that can compensate that effect. He will gain more damage from Strength.

So even with the worse weapon, he will do more damage just because of his strength, but the WR using fist, will have less fails and more critical hits. 3% fail means 3% less dmg and 3% more critical hits means 3% more damage in average.

Last but not least you gain more vigor with faster weapons, because the vigor you gain depends just on how often you hit the enemy and not how much damage you deal. So the faste the weapon, the faster your vigor will raise and the more fury bursts you can use to do more damage.

What does all this tell us in the end? An Axe WR doesn't do more damage then a fist or sword one, it will do less damage. 1 Hit may do more damage, but in average and over time he will ever (!) do less damage. The only advantage of an axe WR in the end is, that he can invest more points on str and con, so that he will have more hp and a slightly higher physical defence.

Slow weapons are good for using skills as you the casting time will result in less hits with higher dmg, fast weapons are good for gaining vigor and using fury.


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Comparison of 2 pimped HH90 weapons to see how heavy the above explained effect is (I don't know magic stats though and will leave them out of the comparison, but as you remember additional strength and damage is ever better for fast weapons):

HH90 Fist: 501-554 with 1.43 hits per second
HH90 Sword: 494-918 with 1.11 hits per second
HH90 Long Blade: 595-991 with 1.00 hits per second
HH90 Axe: 582-1358 with 0.83 hits per second

Unpimped:
HH90 Fist: 754.325 dmg/s
HH90 Sword: 783.66 dmg/s
HH90 Long Blade: 793 dmg/s
HH90 Axe: 805.1 dmg/s

Now all weapons will be pimped with +5 and 1 grade 9 soulstone:
+40 dmg for Grade 9 Soulstone
+114.6 dmg for +5

Pimped:
HH90 Fist: 975.403 dmg/s
HH90 Sword: 955.266 dmg/s
HH90 Long Blade: 947.6 dmg/s
HH90 Axe: 933.418 dmg/s


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And last but not least a total unrealistic comparison of a dream weapon^^

HH100 Weapons max pimped, that means 2 gr12 SS and +12:
+200 dmg from 2 gr12 SS
+825 dmg from +12

Pimped:
Fist: 2433.145 dmg/s
Sword: 2143.41 dmg/s
Long Blade: 2042 dmg/s
Axe: 1788.235 dmg/s

all calculations done

but honestly of all classes, WR and WB are definitely not good pkers...well because they do not have nuking skills like other classes....it takes us awhile to pop hiero and ppl can easily run away...well thats my opinion...(should have created an EA/MG at first)...